Memphis City Council Committee Meetings: October 20, 2026

2026-10-20-1 | Memphis, TN City Council

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MLGW
12 min
Doug McGowan
8 min
MLGW Committee
6 min
data centers
4 min
post tops
4 min
USGS
4 min

Transcript

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Speakers: Doug McGowan, Dr. Jeff Warren, Aaron Smith

MLGW Committee call to order Doug McGowan presents MLGW items Doug McGowan presents MLGW agenda items Doug McGowan answers questions about his presentation

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Good morning, colleagues. Today is Tuesday, October 20th. It is 9:02 a.m. and I hereby call the Memphis Light, Gas, and Water Committee of the Memphis City Council to order. Miss Robinson, can you call the role, please?
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Yes, ma'am. Councilman Dr. Warren, Chair Walker,
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present. So today we have one item. It is a discussion on the MLGW consent agenda. All council districts requested by MLGW. President McGawan, you are recognized.
Doug McGowan
Thank you, Madam Chair. Doug McGowan, Memphis Light Gas and Water 220 South Main Street. Today we bring forward $4.9 million worth of approvals. These cover multi-year contracts for work we need to do at Memphis Light Gas and Water to maintain reliable and resilient utilities. The first item is partial funding of pollution control groundwater quality control program. This is partial because this is MLGW's share. Uh we charge 55 cents per meter in our system. We provide this to the Shelby County Health Department for their groundwater control board as do the other water systems in Shelby County, Bartlett, Carville, Germantown, Millington. uh this uh provides them the resources that they need to do uh study of the groundwater to prevent contamination. They do sampling and monitoring of existing wells uh particularly private wells since we do that uh most of the water systems do that on their own and report to the county. So uh this is our part here and there's been a lot of dialogue about making sure that the pollution control groundwater quality control program is fully funded. Next is a project that will replace water manes in the vicinity of South 2nd Street and Union Avenue, approximately one block to the east and one block to the south. If you think about this, uh to the north and west of the Peabody Hotel, we will be replacing a 12-in water man and an 8 in water man. You will recall over the last few years that area has been torn up several times
Doug McGowan
because of water mane breaks. It's a very old water man. We have flooded the basement of uh the Peabody several times and so uh we committed that we would just replace this entire section because patching is clearly not working. Uh we patched successfully several times the areas that were broken and then downstream we'd get another break. So our team has assessed and said it's time uh to replace this line in total because there is so much infrastructure there and so many businesses that are around there. So, this will be a project that will start this winter and take probably about a year or so. The next is meter data data interval analysis. This is a five-year contract with LBMC. Now, because we have advanced meters, we take samples of our meters every 30 minutes. And what that you can see on the graph here, this tells us how our customers are using energy, when they're using their energy, and it helps us predict where our peaks will be and what kind of infrastructure we need. So we talk about using batteries for peak shaving. Well, this will help us determine when do we dispatch those batteries to make sure we hit that peak. So this software analysis allows us to make sure we hit that uh the peaks right and allows us to forecast into the future uh changes in the way that our customers are using energy. So critically important for our folks to manage the electric load in our system. The next is uh purchase of standard concrete posttops. for purchasing 320 of these. Uh these are the concrete posttops that you'll see where there are street lights in and around the city. Uh these are hollow concrete with the wires that go up through the inside and they're installed places where we need a new posttop or places typically where uh drivers have knocked them down. So this is just a recurring purchase of those posttops. Unrelated to that, these are the Luminere flood lights in the 1000 watt equivalent. These are the very high power lights. 661 of these that we use uh for our street light inventory for expansions. There are several areas
Doug McGowan
where we're adding new street lights and this goes back to replace ones that again have been damaged or knocked down um and are no longer serviceable across the territory. The next request is for $1.7 million over 24 months. We have about an 11 million budget for purchasing wire. This is $1.7 million of that. Uh this is purchasing uh this is the high voltage wire that we use for distribution of electric power across our system. It's 405,000 ft just or 405,000 linear feet. That is 76 miles of wire that comes on these large spools that we will use um to both extend services and also replace services when it is time to replace the wires in our distribution system either because of failure or because of age. Subject to your question that concludes my presentation for the consent agenda items. So this is the pollution control water quality control program. This is with the Shelby County Health Department. This is allows them to do the monitoring. Let me talk since you asked the question about Caesar. We have two programs, two contracts that we um have. One is with Caesar and that is we're in the second uh second phase of that study. We provide all of the data that we have on our wells. They look at all of our wells. They help us determine where we can position wells uh so we don't introduce hazards into at the at the macro level. We also have the USGS contract and they're doing more micro level with the specific placement of wells in and around our well fields so that we don't hazard any contaminants in there. So two contracts Caesar has a broad ranging one that helps us overall manage and USGS is looking specifically
Doug McGowan
at placement of wells in our well field. And then the pollution control groundwater quality control program is making sure that they can track uh the flow of contaminants across the county if there are any and to make sure that individual wells are not having any contaminants in them. So it's a monitoring and a testing program here that we all contribute to. Yes,
Doug McGowan
that is the [clears throat] Shelby County Health Department. Caesar has access to all of our information. They have, you know, free access because we have a contract with them and and so we provide all of our data. We do not have access to the private well data. The Shelby County Health Department has that information. And so I think that's where they're looking for that data. And I don't know that it's uh there's any real limitation here. I think we just need to do a better job of coordinating across the county on that kind of thing. So, but we're not we're not in the middle of that engagement.
Dr. Jeff Warren
And could you look at your next slide?
Doug McGowan
My next slide?
Doug McGowan
Yes, sir.
Dr. Jeff Warren
All right. That's like only a twob block section. Is that what we're looking at here?
Doug McGowan
It is.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay. What makes us think it's not going to break if it's really old there? A block above and a block below? Why are we not doing
Dr. Jeff Warren
that whole area based? So I guess that was my question.
Doug McGowan
This is an area that has been broken and repaired multiple times. So we have multip we've introduced more vulnerabilities. So is there assessment for why we're doing that section.
Doug McGowan
Come on up. Come on up here. Yeah. Introduce yourself and let them know what we're talking about here. So uh
Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith, acting manager, water engineering and operations from MLGW. We have replaced not recently but in the past some just to the south on South Second Street. And so that section right around the Peabody is really the most

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Speakers: Aaron Smith, Dr. Jeff Warren, Doug McGowan

Aaron Smith
we've experienced a lot of breaks there as uh President McGawan said earlier and so that's the section that we're targeting with this. Um in the future we may target there will be more sections in and around downtown that we will probably have to target but this is just our first location.
Dr. Jeff Warren
I just was wondering because normally all these things tend to go bad at once because they're put in ground time maybe. How old are these pipes that you're replacing in general? The oldest to the newest?
Aaron Smith
Uh those two pipes I think were like in the 40s um based on my memory. Um I don't have the exact date on me right now, but I want to say it was in the 40s.
Dr. Jeff Warren
1940s. And out of the pipes that are in downtown, how many were in the 1940s?
Aaron Smith
Oh, a lot.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay. So, as we're thinking about this and we're looking at, you know, uh how we potentially may be able to get some more money into our system to be able to do this, that would be something that is necessary, should be done. And is it in your plans to do? Do we have do we have plans for this?
Dr. Jeff Warren
I'm I'm thinking tree cut trimming here, Doug.
Doug McGowan
Yeah. No, absolutely right. This is a this is one of those questions. We'll be talking about this with our budget. We have to balance uh the amount of cash that we have, the amount of borrowing that we do, and the amount of work we have to do across system with the rates. And as you know, we're coming with a request for the rate increase if our board approves that. And so there's going to be questions about how much do we have to invest now versus delaying in the future. That's always the question. So, uh over time we have delayed investments. uh that has not been our practice here. We have taken a strategic approach to getting those most critical things that are most important. So critically when I got here we had uh some water mane breaks and we didn't have enough production to overcome that. So we invested heavily in new production making sure we had enough wells to produce enough water to to get past any breaks. Then we had some vulnerabilities

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Speakers: Doug McGowan, Dr. Jeff Warren, Jana Swearengen Washington

Doug McGowan explains how MLGW needs to balance spending of cash and borrowing to prioritize work that needs to be done. Jeff Warren and Doug McGowan discuss how MLGW needs to balance their spending between preventative maintenance and recurring maintenance. Swearengen Washington asks some followup questions regarding which municipalities the MLGW money is coming from.

Doug McGowan
in our uh filtering system. So we had to make sure we get those filters back up to speed. And then along the way we also have been doing lead service line replacements because that became a need here too as well as replacing um the infrastructure under the ground. Now the other thing I asked the team for was give me an analysis of what we could do to to predict the failure of the water lines and there is not real good science out there for how you predict the failure of that like there is for an electric transformer or a circuit breaker. we have pretty good idea about how they're performing. A water main either works or it doesn't. So, this is all about prioritization. So, I if I had um all of unlimited funds, we would definitely be uh replacing water manes before they break before she before they broke um on a regular and recurring basis. But we are balancing uh what everybody wants us to do to make sure that we stay affordable and that we minimize the amount of impact. Uh so we think this is the precise kind of thing we need to do. We we have a really good sense of where these things are vulnerable, where they're breaking. And so uh in the order of priorities once we get some of these other major like production components, we may be able to get into that probably in a few years.
Dr. Jeff Warren
You know, we're we're looking at what do we do with these data centers and how do we get funds from them?
Doug McGowan
Sure.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay. And part of what I'm looking at is how much funds does MLG&W need for able to extract more funds from these things as we move forward in the future. This is a particular spot that having that information will be helpful as we figure out how we want to ask and what we want to do to move forward.
Doug McGowan
We we certainly have an idea of of the things we'd like to do that we think are prudent, but again, we're going to have prudence because I know this is a community of many needs, Dr. Warren, and and we want to make sure that we're balancing what we need to, you know, we just want to
Doug McGowan
make sure we're on target with that. So, so we'll definitely have uh some ideas about that and where we could use a little additional help.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Yeah. Because you're thinking, you know, you look back at the tree thing, you know, and the power line thing, they were balancing that too as best they could on no money.
Doug McGowan
My idea of balancing is making sure that we meet the basics. We have to fund all of the preventative maintenance. We have to fund all of the uh all of the recurring maintenance. So, we have to renew and replace infrastructure. And that's exactly what you're talking about here is renewing and replacing infrastructure when and before it fails. So,
Dr. Jeff Warren
thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, thank you, Miss McGome.
Jana Swearengen Washington
You're welcome. And I had a couple of questions. So, on page four, the partial funding, so we're paying part of it. Are these municipalities at the bottom paying the other portion?
Doug McGowan
Yes, ma'am. They are everybody. I think it's like 55 cents per meter that we all pay. So, the number of meters that they have, that's how much money flows into the program.
Jana Swearengen Washington
Okay. And then one more, please.
Doug McGowan
This is an annual contribution.
Jana Swearengen Washington
Okay, thank you for that. And then on page um so these are post tops. These are not the actual post.
Doug McGowan
Uh these the we call them post tops, concrete post tops. That means that the light fixture sits on top of the post. You know, there are some that have the gooseeneck arm that sticks out and the like the this slide. That luminere will sit on one of those arms that sticks out on these concrete post tops. They're the decorative posts that go into the ground and then the light fixture sits on top typically with a globe on it. That's why we call it a posttop. So, this is the concrete standard. This is the light pole and then there's a posttop light that sits on top. That's why it's called the posttop.
Jana Swearengen Washington
Okay. Um, and sometimes, unfortunately, someone can

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Speakers: Jana Swearengen Washington, Doug McGowan

Jana Swearengen Washington
hit a pole and knock it down. So, are they do you all currently charge people for that?
Doug McGowan
Yes, ma'am. Our uh claims department does a good job of trying to recover resources when we can um if it is known and if the vehicle is still there and if many times we see a pole knocked down and there's no no evidence, there's nobody there on the scene. So, but when we know somebody has caused damage to the system, our team will work to recover a claim from that damage. So, I think it's how many millions of dollars,
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Jennifer, have we recovered, do you think?
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I think it's a couple million in our budget. A million and a half.
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So, Mr. Cle says it's about about a million dollars a year in recovery that we actually are able to to recover for damage to our systems. Um, so probably not close to the overall cost, but that's just the nature of
Jana Swearengen Washington
And how much do you assess um the driver for a pole?
Doug McGowan
We're just trying to recover the cost for the the full requirements of replacing that pole.
Jana Swearengen Washington
And that's how much?
Doug McGowan
It depends on the pole that we have. If it's a highmass light on the interstate, that pole's more expensive. These lights, uh, you can see here are a little less expensive than we also have. If it's a wooden pole, um, all in, if we have to change out the pole, it's about $5,000 to do the pole and all the attachments with the labor and everything else. So, it can vary. A street light pole could be several thousand uh just to replace the pole and the lighting uh structure that goes with it. It's more expensive. If they hit the pole and it dra has underground infrastructure and pulls up all the wires, uh, that's more pricey because it's affecting multiple poles. So, it does vary pretty widely.
Jana Swearengen Washington
Okay, thank you for that. Let the record show that Councilwoman White has joined us.
Doug McGowan
Yeah, 8,000. Okay, I was correct. It's about 8,000 to totally replace a wooden

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Speakers: Dr. Jeff Warren, Justice Bolden

Update from Memphis Parks on Raymond Skinner Center pool repairs. The pool is back open.

Dr. Jeff Warren
Councilwoman White and Chair Warren also present. Colleagues, um we are not going to have an update on Mud Island River Parks Partnership after talking with uh Councilwoman Cooper Southern. She would like for us to delay that till the next meeting. So, we'll do that. And uh the first item I'd like to call is item number three, a quick update on the repair of the Raymond Skinner pool. Uh do we have anyone here for that presentation? This is I think going to be good news for people who want to swim there. Uh it is a supply chain issue. I think that has been our downfall. Uh
Justice Bolden
yes, good morning. Uh Justice Balden, Memphis Parks director, 2599 Avery. Also, I'll allow my colleagues to introduce themselves. Gerald Spencer, deputy director, general service, 125 North Main.
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Melvin Jamerson, Director, General Service, 125 North Main.
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Yes. So, we'll save the best news for last. I guess first off, I'll just turn it over to uh general services just to talk about uh some of the updates they performed uh both on the roof as well as the boiler.
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Excellent. Gentlemen, being heroes already at Over Park, let's see how we can do today.
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So, good morning. Yeah, we um the Skinner Center uh was shut down in May for roof repairs. Uh the roof repairs were completed in July. Um the boiler was repaired last week. Yesterday, we went in and changed the set point so it'll be warm and properly. So, the pool is um area is opened and ready ready to be used.
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Well, when is the exact opening date?
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So, it actually opened this morning. So, Raymond Skinner Pool is is back open. Yeah, there we go.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay, that's I think that's a win-win. You have any questions from fellow council member?
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay, if not, thank you gentlemen for that great news. Thank you.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Hopefully uh we can put that out and people know they can start going back.
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Oh yeah, it'll be out on our socials and also uh we have a a message that's going to all the members who are uh of the Raymond Skinner Center.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Excellent. We have a resolution to allocate appropriate and this is item number four. Thank you guys. Item number four is a resolution to allocate, appropriate, and transfer the sum of $43,2245 from Memphis Parts Capital Reserve CIP project PK25104 fiscal year 2027 contract construction and transfer to Westwood Pool Improvements CIP project number PK 04020 contract construction as part of fiscal year 2027 capital improvement budget. This is district six super district 8. Could I please have a motion move by white and seconded by the chair. All right. Um you have the form is p.
Justice Bolden
Okay. So westwood pool um as many of you are aware this pool closed pre- pandemic. Um had been closed for roughly about 6 years or so. Had an aluminum main drain system and whatnot. parks went in, performed a complete renovation of this pool and we actually opened during the month of August. Now, why it was unique, we were essentially uh complete with the summer months, but we were able to open and coincide with the the opening of uh Westwood High School, who also had uh middle school students transition over from Chickasaw. So ultimately we provided uh programming Tuesday through Friday from 3 to 6:00 p.m. um during the month of August up until Labor Day as well as Saturday from 1 to6 and and guess what we doubled the membership at uh Charles Powell. So u we started with roughly about 350 members. We had 700 members by the end of the month. So u it offered us a unique opportunity to work with the community. Now, when it comes to this particular allocation, appropriation and transfer, essentially there was some unforeseen circumstances, mainly the backflow pre as well as uh some deck uh drain line repairs and whatnot. And so, those have

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Speakers: Justice Bolden, Dr. Jeff Warren

Mr. Bolden from Memphis Parks discusses Memphis Roller Derby relocation. Justice Bolden continues to go over the finances for Memphis Roller Derby relocations from Pipkin.

Justice Bolden
been completed and we're just closing out the project.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Do we have any other questions? If not, all those in favor, please say I.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Okay. And the chair's eye. I believe the eyes have it. That goes down with a favorable approval for same night minutes without objection. Okay. And item uh our last item is uh updates on park discussion with Memphis Roller Derby on relocation from Pipton Building District 4 Super District 9. This was requested by me at the since we delayed the vote last time. Where are we now director and should we proceed with our vote tonight?
Justice Bolden
Yes. So, we've uh made tremendous pro progress uh during the past few days. Uh first I'll say it's been a great opportunity to work alongside the roller derby community. U certainly uh we understand when a in in sports sometimes when an official makes a call 50% of the people may not agree with the call but ultimately our goal is to make sure we continue to deliver quality services. And so, uh, what you have here is, uh, locations that we've, uh, determined that Roller Derby will be able to both practice as well as host bouts. So, uh, first off, if you're looking at the screen here, you'll see Davis Community Center. So, the tier one rental rate for Davis Community Center is typically $150 an hour. So, what we've done, uh, historically, roller derby practice is about 210 hours per year. Uh the annual rate without a subsidy would be $31,500. Um a few weeks ago, Chair Warren, you asked us to essentially keep the price the same for roller derby. So what we're showing you is what a subsidized rate would look like at $42.86 or about $9,000 a year. That is a 71% subsidy that the Memphis Parks would be providing to roller derby. Um now I I'll also bring you down to the Pipkin
Justice Bolden
building. So, what we're looking at is the weekday uh nonprofit rental rate. Um, so normally the cost would be for 210 hours at $281.25 would be approximately 59,000 a year. U roller derby was receiving a rate at approximately right around 42.86 and so thus there was an 84% subsidy there. Now, um, couple of things that that are important to note for Davis Community Center. This is a location that not only we've uh secured for practices for roller derby but also for skate schools. So what that means is uh for the first time in at least under my tenure uh we will offer not only uh practices to roller derby in a Memphis community center um in in the university district mess bun but also skate school for 18 and up. So our goal through this process is to really activate the community center in a way in which we are bringing more skaters into the community. We are introducing more skaters to what roller derby does and ultimately we hope more members of the community skate. Memphis is a skating community. We we've done it at Crystal Palace, Raleigh skating rink and historically we're skating on wood floors, gymnasium floors simp simply and so we will do that at Davis Community Center. Um now I want to uh also move to the next page just to talk a little bit about bouts. Okay. So, um, I've listed just a couple of locations. Orange Mound could be a third location where bouts could be hosted on a Saturday. Keep in mind the Memphis Parks is, uh, typically has hours on Saturday of 9:00 a.m. and until 1:00 p.m. Typically, historically, uh, roller derby has bouts that will start in the afternoon around 4:00 and then if they have a second bout, it will be about six o'clock. And so we have an example where uh if they were to use Davis or Gaston Community Center, which we've provided a a permit for, the annual rate without a subsidy would be $6,000. And so we don't Yeah. Without we
Justice Bolden
don't need to provide a subsidy. The cost is actually uh much lower uh than what they were paying at the Pipkin building. And so what you see here, four four bouts that that's four different dates where you would have a bout. Um the roughly the cost would be right around $6,000. We've incur we've included the cost of what security would would include. And so that's essentially about one for for every 50 or so. U and keep in mind the the crowd may change from from bout to bout, but roughly we're estimating about $7,560. So essentially what we've shown you is an opportunity to actually uh place some funds back into uh roller derby to be able to you use for other things. Um, but certainly we're also looking to the fact that now on a Saturday, whether it's the afternoon or the evening, you could visit a Memphis Parks community center and you could see roller derby for the first time. And so we're excited about that opportunity.
Dr. Jeff Warren
Are you plans on thinking of alternating Davis and Gaston to get into different communities and explore? They would they prefer just to have one?
Justice Bolden
Yeah. So ultimately that'll be under the purview of roller derby to determine. Um we've asked that essentially we host some scrimmages and really lay out what it feels like. So there'll be an opportunity for them to invite uh you know members of the community. Certainly we'll be able to you know assist with that outreach, but it gives us an opportunity to really see what it looks like to have a bout in a community center. So we're looking forward to that. Um also um and and essentially what we've done is said hey uh during the peak months when Memphis sports and event sports and event center is at its highest Davis Gaston or even Orange Mound Community Center would be available for your use. So we're talking March, April, May and June if necessary. Uh and now when we look at the Memphis Sports and Event Center, the annual rate without a subsidy for four bouts would be right around $20,000. Certainly u there's an opportunity for security. It all depends upon whether roller derby is hosting without any events on site. If there's an event on site on courts uh uh 12 through 16, the

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security is essentially already there and that would be a cost that roller derby doesn't necessarily have to occur. So ultimately that will just depend on some coordination that would happen with with Memphis Sports and Event Center. Uh yesterday uh we did have a great conversation with Sports and Event Center. They also got over the license agreement which uh you know now roller derby has in their hands. I also in included uh what the subsidize rate will look like. So what you see now is the Memphis Sports and Event Center is providing a 50% subsidy to Memphis Roller Derby. So um currently if if you'll look at the cost there, they're offering a cost of roughly $10,000 and then certainly we've got the option for security um as well. And then I'll flip down to the bottom Pipkin building. So, um, essentially you've got a base rate that's about $2,125. When you add that up, it's over four bouts. You're looking at about 8,500. And then we have the security and additional fees that are there. Uh, that cost was roughly about $12,900. Um, I did not include the optional buyout cost because that more so refers to permits related to either food or or beverage, alcohol. Um, but what you see here once again is an opportunity to actually place funds back in the hands of Memphis Roller Derby. So certainly we understand that change is not always comfortable, but what we wanted to do was make sure that we were equitable at what we were providing. So um, this is essentially what we have here uh, as it relates to both practices and ballots.
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Thank you. Let the record show that Councilwoman Logan and Councilwoman Walker and Councilman Ford are also present. Do we have questions? Council members clarifying questions.
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So there's no additional expense to parks to for these arrangements. It's it's evening out in other words.
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Well, there is a cost for us when it comes to staffing. Yes. So, when we're staffing the location, uh if it's Davis or or Gas and Community Center from 8 to

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9:00 p.m. on a weekday, uh there is a cost associated with that in terms of part-time staff, but we're at least capturing that hour through the $150 cost. So, that's essentially the community center is already open during normal business hours. Now, when it comes to the actual bouts on the weekend, that is our rate if you were to reserve a facility for a for-profit rental. Essentially what we're saying is if you're going to charge admission, right, uh you you will have patrons coming in paying to enter the facility. That is what that rate is for. So yes, there is a cost associated with it, but we believe that this is a cost that we would provide to any community organization we were working alongside.
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Okay. Thank you.
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So um I think we'll be voting on this tonight. It was already sent down with the favorable recommendation last time. Unless there are any changes, uh, we'll continue that this time. And I believe that's it. Unless anyone has any other issues today. If not, thank you very much. We're ajourned. And great news on the pools.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.

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Walker, I'm sorry.
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Present.
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Councilwoman Logan.
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Councilman Warren. Thank you for coming today. We have two items. Item number one is a resolution to accept and appropriate grant funds in the amount of $430,500. Let me say that again. in the amount of $430,500 from the state of Tennessee Library and Archives 2027 Metro Grant. All council districts sponsored by the administration. It's been moved and it's been second. Um, and with us today we have library director Harris. Thank you for coming and you have the floor.
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Thank you all for having me this morning. Um this is a grant from the state which is uh supports one of the most critical functions that we have at the library system and that is our collection. Uh the Memphis Public Libraries has a collection of almost 2 million items to check out we use a shared system. So uh no matter which library that you frequent uh if there is an item that you desire if it is at

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another branch we are able to ship that over to you to the next day. So it's very important for us to keep our collection robust and this is also important because the costs of books are really skyrocketing uh especially electronic books. We have about a 100,000 items that are available for checkout. Uh but the way that the publishing companies uh price them is you're going to pay more than double for an electronic book that you only have for a very limited amount of time as opposed to a physical book that you keep forever. Um, so this grant allows us to help stay ahead of the curve uh for other systems that are anywhere near our size, anywhere in our location. Um, so we really would like for the council to approve this and accept this uh grant from the state.
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Okay. Is there anyone in the queue? All those in favor?
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oppose. The eyes have it. Item number two is a resolution approving and ratifying an intergovernmental agreement between the city of Memphis by and through Memphis Public Libraries and Shelby County government for the operation of the East Shelby Branch Library. unincorporated Shelby County sponsored by the administration.
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Director Harris, you have the floor.
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Yes, ma'am. This is a contract with Shelby County government to operate the East Shelby Drive branch uh which is located uh at Shelby Drive and Germantown uh road. It is the only library that is technically owned by Shelby County government. uh they do contract with us to completely staff it to uh handle all operational functions

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of that library. It is something that we see is very important for us to serve this mixed uh demographic, mixed zip code uh to where you have a lot of unincorporated residents along with city of Memphis residents as well. Um we feel that it's very important to us and we love providing that service for all citizens in that area. Okay, thank you for that. And let the record show that Councilwoman White has joined us. All in favor?
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Oppose. The eyes have it. This being the only item this excuse me there are no other items for this committee. So we are adjourned.
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Sure. We need to make this announcement that there is a book sale at the library uh on the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th. And we pass this out to people. You already did that. I didn't do
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No, I forgot. And thank you so much.
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So, we need to make sure everybody knows about this and pass it on to your friends and everybody so we can make them some money. Okay.
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All right. Thank you. and that's October 22nd, 23rd, 24th, and 25th of this week. So, make sure you get a hold of these great deals on our books. Thank you. We are journ.
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Thank you all.

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Councilwoman White,
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Councilwoman Logan,
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and Chairwoman Green
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present. All right. Our first item is a update from M Street Fiber, all council districts requested by Councilwoman Walker. I see we have people here to present if you want to give us your name and begin. Perfect. Good morning. How do we control this? Perfect. Thank you. Good morning, U Council. Thanks for allowing us to come in. Uh Gus Shimos, I am M Street Fers, uh new CEO. I joined the company back in June. Um, we'll give you a quick update as to where we stand. We'll go through a quick slide deck and again allow for some uh from open questions here. So, real quickly just on my background, I've been in the telecom industry for over 30 years, been building fiber networks across across the country and uh most recently was uh building networks in upstate New York as our chief operating officer. And you know, we've been at M Street. We've been we've been focused on some new leadership. And I'd like to introduce um Adrien Kesler, who's our our latest and our newest GM and president here of Memphis, who joined us about a month or so ago now to help lead uh M Street Fiber Memphis and uh and take on all the initiatives we have we have in front of you. And just just as a as background for Adrian, you know, I can I can share that his past experience over the 25 years and specifically with the city of Lafayette working with the city and running a network um and and and really taking advantage of a public private opportunity. Uh he brings us a level of experience to kind of really help take this project to the next level here. Um, the changes that have been made at M

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Street. I'm sure many of you have heard of some changes across the board honestly has been a function of bringing a a higher sense of urgency and accountability to our organization, pushing for results, continuing on the path that was set forward, but uh really trying to drive uh the the successes that uh we set up a few years ago when the contract was put in place. So, um, if we if we want to move on,
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can you tell me I need the name of the of your other friend here?
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Oh, yes, sure.
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Adrien Kesler.
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Thank you.
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So, as just a quick quick background, the the partnership that M Street Fiber has today with the city is a fairly unique partnership. It's it's a P3 partnership. It's a it's a function of um our sponsor Meridium and in their commitment and long-term partnerships and investments with uh with city and municipalities. Uh at the same time, we're not building a what I'll call a traditional fiber optic network. We're building an open access network that will enable competition, bring multiple internet providers to the city of Memphis. Um, and more importantly doing all of that um without having to dig up streets more than once, which is a difficult uh process. And it's a uh let's just say it's not uh very friendly to our neighbors and our communities as we dig up these streets. too. The opportunity that we bring here is to make an investment that um is is forward thinking, is committed for the long run. Um and we're kind of excited to be partnering with uh with the city of Memphis in kind of really enabling a true partnership across across the table here. And with regards to community and community access, we'll get into some more details, but we uh we're excited to support kind of the launch of the connecting 901 uh agenda process with the smart Memphis City Network um which

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we just launched a couple of weeks ago out in Orange Mountain and really really bringing connectivity uh and fiber uh fiber networks to all all parts of the city uh both on the resident side and and on the businesses themselves. I I don't want to interrupt you, but we do have your presentation. If we can move through it um so that we can open it up for questions because I'm sure this is something the council members have and I know Councilwoman Logan requested this, so she probably has some things she wants to
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share. Understood. So, real real quickly, we with the changes we made, we're building faster, building at a pace that we haven't built before. We built over 20 over 28,000 passings this quarter scheduled to get to 175,000 passings by by year end 2027. Um we we we are really pushing to get to the commitments we have contractually as well as reach all the neighborhoods that are looking for connectivity itself. This gives you kind of a rough timeline as to what's been completed to date and and how we're going to progress here over the next five quarters. Um we're really focused through the next uh five quarters on pushing our construction and enabling our networks itself. The the investment been made two almost 250 million. Our goal or expectation is we're going to we're going to commit another almost half billion dollars uh to kind of build out uh and support the entire project going forward. So this is a significant investment by our sponsor sponsors at Meridium uh to kind of support the M Street fiber network buildout itself. If we go to the next page, we'll see to the left the top left shows where we built in green. Um to the top right gives you an idea of construction in process and and more importantly down at the bottom um we we call these fiber huts. Uh we have all of those blue I call them look look like blue houses. All those huts are fibered and connected

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today. Those are our launching um opportunities for building out within the community uh extending to certain needs within the city in a more uh short-term need when those commitments come up. But you see how we have completed our a very significant investment in our backbone to support the ultimate growth of connecting uh all of our uh residences and businesses within the city of Memphis itself with with the connecting 901 project. We launched Orange Mound a few weeks back. We're excited that our next uh our next launch will be in the early part of December um with uh you know in the Hollywood Community Center and we'll continue to work with the city to really push forward and enable smart city across all of all of me men all of Memphis itself and and and with that uh we'll we'll definitely open up for questions. Just gives you a couple of images from our last event.
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Um can we go back to the maps please? I think that'll probably be most helpful for us as we start talking through our districts.
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Yes.
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Um, Councilwoman Logan, the floor is yours.
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Thank you, Chair. Um, can you all just kind of go over page Well, I don't know. Page this right here. Yeah. What exactly what are we looking at in all three images?
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Yes, exactly. Okay. So, in the top left, the the the dark green shaded areas are areas where we have fully constructed and completed our fiber buildout.
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Okay?
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In the top right, the orange that you're seeing is active construction in the city today. Um, that's part of our current build plan and we'll have that those are the targeted areas that we're building through 20 through Q3 of 2027. The bottom area gives you an outline as to all of those huts, as we call them, are connected via fiber today, creating the backbone that will enable us to expand in each one of the communities

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that we're supporting.
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So, when will the areas that are that don't have um current build passings, when will those what's the target to have those done?
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So, those targets are in 2028 uh and and beyond. So I think there's a 24month forecast from 2028 going forward. Um right now we have immediate outlook into the next five quarters as to where they're coming and every quarter we'll update and advance um our buildout uh timelines to support the network growth.
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Okay. Can you send that um timeline or include send that re you can send it alone or you can add it to this and resend it. And I also have a question. I want to can you elaborate on the quality of what has been installed and um talk to me about the um quality control measures that are in place as you are installing rolling this out um and where that fares in terms of excellence and the best quality um that type of thing.
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Yes. Um by all means what what our construction team congruix CNS as you may have heard the name in the market itself are actively constructing the network on our behalf. Uh we have um a partner in Nokia who's helping provide oversight and project management support um as well as QC quality control uh reviewing what CNS is building uh where and when and we are implementing what I would call more string more stringent um testing um back in Q2 at the end of Q2 we made a decision to slow down some of our construction Um and to circle back and further test uh the network that was being built, we we had we had a pace issue in how we were building and we were concerned on the quality. We've been reertifying uh the entire network

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that was built u going back uh going back two years. Now that reertification process um will complete by the end of this year, giving us a a 100% confidence level in what we've built um is not only available to support the speeds and the network quality that that we expect from what we what we've spent and built um but also support the future growth out there.
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If you could share that um your assessment and your findings with us, that would be great. And if there are any areas that are not um at the the level that you feel they are, what are you doing and what has been done or going to be done to um bring those levels up to where they should be or exceed where they you know the standard? Um and what are you putting in place to ensure that the rest of the installation exceeds that standard? We we've we've increased our testing parameters to levels that are beyond a normal acceptance level, which now puts puts what we built at a higher quality than what we were doing in the past. In the current deployment that we have in turning up customers, we have our teams reertifying every installation to confirm quality before we activate the service itself. So, we're doing a a double check at every install period, but at the same time, we've raised our standards on testing uh with incremental testing um pieces of equipment um and the team that we have in place that's that's providing incremental oversight as well.
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Okay. How long has Noia been in place?
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Noia has been with us for the beginning of the project as our as our project management or PMO team.
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All right. Thank you.
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No problem. Thank you. Um yeah, I wanted this map pulled up and I have a couple of other members in the queue, but um district 4 definitely getting more. That's what I see. Um and I do see that a lot is planned in five. And what I found initially exciting

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about this project and this investment and this partnership was that we were going to bring connectivity to our underserved communities. And I am looking at a couple of maps here where we have nothing going on in six, district six. Nothing going on in district three and my part of district two, which is in Hickory Hill. Um, again, that connects with some of Councilwoman Walker's. I I know the need is great there. We And maybe that's happening in 2028. I don't know because this is um you know only this year and next year but it is concerning to me that we're going into let's say the popular corridor in district 5 where I know there is good connectivity before we are going into the communities in need. So, I'm just going to say that um you don't have to have an answer for it right now, but I would like to have a plan moving forward that talks about the areas that are most in need because um we are trying to build a city that is connected. You know, when we shut the world down during COVID, what we learned was people were having to bring their kids to McDonald's for Wi-Fi to do school work and homework. And it doesn't look like I've been on council now for three years that we're solving that problem yet even though we've made this great investment and we're going to continue to be building out in places that are already connected. That's problematic to me because we're not meeting the need where the need is most. Um, so I hope that when you come back to us or through email that you talk specifically about the areas that have the least connectivity and how we are planning to put connectivity in place there. Um, next in the queue I have Councilman Warren.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh, you took

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part of that out of my mouth. Um, when we first did this project, I thought it was a four-year project. Is that a four? Is that correct?
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No, that's
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what was the what was the initial time frame for this project?
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The the initial time frame had a had a five I believe a five to six year construction window and
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a five to six year and we're now in construction year four.
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We kicked off the project in 2023 with design mapping preparation on that front. I believe we actually only started constructing in 2024 but
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Okay. So, so we're looking at a 5-year window from 2024. And it was the purpose of this was to get, and I remember the presentation, we're not we don't need to go in places that already have it. We're going to go in places that don't have it.
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And it looks like where we are places that mostly do have it. So, why is that? [clears throat] I it's I can't specifically answer the question,
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but let me allow me allow me to to take that back. Um what what I can share is out of the construction that we've completed, we have completed 50% of what we've completed has been in in low-income areas where from our calculation, we don't believe there was good if any connectivity. But uh if if your data is different, then allow me to take some of that.
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Go look at that again. Okay. You know, I can see parts of this map that that may be true, but we've got 85% I think of our city that's in need of this, you know, that is not connected. And you know, so it's only 50% you're you're going into the easiest parts first. So it would be nice maybe in 6 months if you came back and told us how the rest of this is going to play out and where you're mapping it. so we can make sure it occurs
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and do do the places that need it least

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last and most first.
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All right. Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Yeah, I think I think we all feel that way. Um, and I know there is a geographical issue of how the internet comes in. I think it's just that we're talking about the fact that it's coming in, but it's not going down into the places where we really need to see it. And it, you know, um, you gave us your brief bio. I don't know if you're a native, uh, Memphian, but I know you have a local Memphian here. Hopefully, you have some Memphians in your seats of power. Yes. um and some diversity at the places and tables where these decisions are being made so that people are expressing we don't just need to go to places where we can make money on the fiber but places that are needing it desperately. Next in the queue is Councilwoman Walker.
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Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you all for coming today. So, I want to go back to um Councilman Warren's question. If I understood it correctly, he wanted to know why you were in the areas that have the coverage already. And did you say you weren't versus the areas that are most needy? Did I understand you correctly to say something to the effect of that you didn't know?
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No, no, no. Again, my my response was the what the initial schedule was put in place, some of the parameters that were kicked off back in 23 and 24. Again, I wasn't around for some of those details. So, that's what I don't have readily available uh for for for me. Um what what what I can share that similar to the the feedback as we have to build from a central point and and build out and at times that may not target the ability to to hit an area that either whether it sits on the fringe or or or creates a just a difficult situation for us to kind of go

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connect back into. And we can't create little islands. They all have to be connected. And so it has to kind of spread out from kind of a of a central point is kind of what you're seeing right now and then edges out to the the outer parts of the city.
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Okay. So you don't have the figures. So you're saying that you don't know them in real time or they're at the office?
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I don't have I don't have it at real time with me right now.
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Okay. All right. Um earlier in your comments you said going to the next level. What does next level mean to you
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with regards to our build schedule? The first half of this year we I think we had built less than 10,000 homes. Uh in Q3 we built almost three times that amount. So the next level for me is progressing our agenda of building out the network that we've committed to as part of this partnership.
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Okay. So to make this recent progress, was it because the terrain in these areas where they already have access? Is it are these areas easier to install and that's why you shifted and chose these areas? So to to to be clear, we've had a build plan and schedule in place going on two years now and we've been following that progression. And so what we've been able to do is just build faster uh according to our build plan. So we we we didn't retarget new areas, you know, we we face normally we face issues with regards to ability to get on poles, whether they are MLGW poles or AT&T poles or if we're building underground. The the the geography issue is just a normal what I'll call construction process that we go through.
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Okay. And I'm almost finished, Madam Chair. So plan coverage at least 85%.

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Where are you with that
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right now? We're about halfway through that. We're at the Can you confirm for me, Adrian?
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Yeah. So, [clears throat] we're about 40 45% of that. And just to reiterate, we we did not shift anything. We just went much faster. Uh and you know, I just want to confirm our data against the data you're seeing. And I would welcome feedback into areas that uh you think that are not on the list that have the greatest need. I'd love to partner with you to make sure um that we're hitting those. We think we are. Um so Fraser, Hollywood, Orange Mound, we're doing all the these events. Uh those are already built and we're continuing to build out at a faster rate. We haven't changed the actual map that we shared with you two years ago.
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Okay. Let me say this and and I'll I'll close here. When we talk about Memphis, when we brag on Memphis, when we share about great things that are taking place here, this project is one of the projects that some of us do refer to and I believe it is a good project. I know what it's supposed to mean from its inception. And I think I can safely speak on behalf of my colleagues. We just wanted to do what the intended purpose was and and hopefully in the intended in the estimated amount of time that was given at the beginning. And so I hope that this is going to move forward and these other areas will be addressed in in a timely fashion. Thank you and I yield the floor.
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Thank you. Yeah, I I think um as you said, you haven't been here this whole time. We have.
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Um and some of the council members like Councilwoman Logan were here at the inception of this project. A lot of us, this was one of our first votes when we came on, but we were proud of that vote

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because of what it was going to do for Memphians in need. And because we're all Memphians, because we all serve here, we can look at that map and tell you that's not the Memphians most in need, um especially of this. And so, um it is disconcerning to get this update
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that we are we don't know when we're going to get to those places and we don't have a a a math and a a plan for a timeline for that. Um, again, the the problematic areas, I agree with you, there are some things in Orange Mound and Frasier that we absolutely needed to do, and it looks like you're covering district 4. She always gets more, uh, chairwoman, very well, but there is a swath of Memphis that is blank and no timeline for when they're going to be there. and to hear the leadership sit in front of us today
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and not recognize those neighborhoods in White Haven, in Hickory Hill, in Westwood and not have a timeline for it is incredibly frustrating because this is a multi-million dollar project that we have put so much behind. Um, I think the last I No, Councilwoman White, you're in the queue. Nope. Y'all touched on everything that I wanted to say. Thank you. Um, Councilwoman swearing, chairwoman swearing in Washington,
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we've had some concern with some of our constituents about the wires hanging low and them interfering with um, MLGW wires. So, we just need to make sure that there's a plan in place to go behind whoever the contractors are to make sure that the wires are, you know, are placed
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correctly. Understood. And we're definitely working handinhand with MLGW to address any of the any of those concerns. Um, we appreciate we've gotten

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some feedback from some of our constituents who have raised concerns and I'm I'm confident that we jump on those as quickly as as as possible. So, we will continue to make sure um we're not putting um our whether it's trucks or vehicles or or actually our people in danger with what we're doing.
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Okay. Thank you. Councilwoman Logan, you want to close us out?
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Yes. Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to um remind us that when they when we initially start began the project, I think it was President McGawan, he was here the CIO at that time, um communicated to us that the and tell me if I'm wrong, the fiber comes into Memphis in this area in the Bartlett area and they were going to start district one and go all the way around and come back and they would hit the the areas in each district that needed, you know, needed the most it would cover. So, are you all still following that and you just got behind? Is that what you're saying? Or you have a you're routing it a different way now? We're still following the initial plan and what we what we are able to do now as I mentioned where our the bottom the bottom map over there is that we can now hit certain areas in a short time frame to support public areas, public spaces that we can try to connect multiple um um constituents at the same time as as part of these community centers. The completion of that ring that we uh we completed last month enables us to start to actually expand outside and do what I would call kind of high u high need areas that can actually impact a significant part of the constituents themselves. And so we're in position to do that now. and and the first part of that was actually the the Orange Mound um launch that we did and excited about doing it in Hollywood and other areas that could sit in and around those blue

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huts.
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And so you all have um shor up the quality control. Correct.
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So that because that's important to me. I don't want you to go fast putting bad w you know you know bad connections out. So, it's good that you all took the time to correct the things that were not in place to make sure that we have the best product and um I'm hearing you say that you've done that now. You put those huts there. So, you should be able to go faster. So, you send us that information prior to you coming for us to review that and see where you are.
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Perfect. We'll do. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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All right. Thank you so much. We're going to move on to item number two on the agenda, which is a resolution approving the first amendment to the economic impact plan for legacy [snorts] at Countrywood District 1, Super District 9, sponsored by Councilwoman Logan. Councilwoman,
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second.
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Thank you. Moved by Chairwoman Swaren Washington, seconded by Councilwoman Councilman Warren. I always say that because there's a W in your name. Uh, who do we have here to speak on this item? Anybody from the administration? Do you want to hold this item? Okay, we will hold this for two weeks. All right, we'll hold this for two weeks. And I also want to say, Councilwoman Logan, I'm going to invite uh M Fiber back in two months to get an update on where we
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Yeah.
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Well, I have nobody. This is not an exception of money. It's approving the amendment for the economic plan and I don't have anyone here to speak on it.
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No, no, we'll hold item number two for two weeks. Item number one, I'm going to have M fiber come back in two months. Does that make sense? Okay, we'll hold this for two weeks. Thank you. And with that, our committee is adjourned.

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[clears throat]
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Security Committee meeting to order. It's now 10:45. Uh, could we please have a roll call?
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present.
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Councilwoman White,
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Councilwoman Logan, Chairwoman Surging Washington,
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present.
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And Chair Dr. Warren
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also present. Cogs, we have three items on the agenda today. Item number one is a discussion of MPD efforts to protect public events. This is general all counselor districts requested by me. Who's going to be our lead? Chief cooler.
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Uh that will be Colonel Mathenina. We will talk about the public events.
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Excellent. Mina,
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good morning sir. How are you?
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I'm doing great. How you doing? Can you hear me? doing well. We Yeah. Get it close to you.
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Okay. [clears throat]
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There. We're getting a handed out a little item here for the event. And you have the floor, sir.
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Turn the mic back on. As long as he's green, you're on now. You're on.
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All right. Good morning.
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All right. I'm Colonel Main. I'm with the Memphis Police Department. So, I'm here today to talk about special events and how we protect special events in general. So, the Memphis Police Department Special Events Office, we protect the public by coordinating safety efforts for special events throughout the city. So our mission is to help ensure events are safe, orderly, and wellcoordinated while maintaining the flow of vehicle and pedestrian traffic. So when we're looking at special events, we're looking at the business, trying to get the business back to running smoothly, make sure that the neighborhoods are accessible when we're having the special events, especially when it comes to medical needs. Cuz while you're enjoying yourself and enjoying the events, we want you to be safe. You have to think about medical. If someone has a medical issue, can they get in and can they get out? So we look at ingress and egress.

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So our key responsibilities, we look at our events and we evaluate the security assessment. We review each application that is presented to the permit office. Uh we do the schedule. We look at the attendance and we also speak to the organizers to see if they need police involvement. Even if they do not need police involvement, we contact each and every single station so that they can know that this event even though it does not have MPD involvement, it may be occurring in the park is going to occur in the neighborhood. So we need to do a directed patrol and or a routine patrol to make sure that of course our citizens are safe. uh just this year alone we have looked at more than 609 events that we have this year uh every week that equals out to about 15 events and about 65 events a month. So just to break those down this year we've had 155 street closures. We've had 40 parades. We had three parades that require street closures, 57 runs, and 353 public assemblies and one spontaneous event. So, when we're looking at these 69 events, actually 6:34 this morning, we not only look at the safety, but we look at what can we do to improve our community. Let's make the event organizer happy. Let's make the neighborhood happy. You know, Memphis is Memphis is great. Different things like St. J Classic to Memphis in May. When we things go good, we meet. When things go not so good, we meet. If you have 35 eyes looking at something, you have 35 eyes that saw something different. So, how can we improve? How can we maintain this great city of Memphis?
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Thank you. Any other questions or any other presentations on that? Uh, specifically, I think y'all were going to comment on some of the things you've

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been doing for hotspots. What do you do when you have the hotspots? Is that coming next?
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Yes. So, our hotspots, depending on what you mean by hotspots, uh, we do look at hotspots for real time crime center. We are information technology. Uh, the real time crime center with director Brown. We receive those hotspots daily and we receive them weekly. Of course, we have our weekly Thursday meetings where we talk about crime in our hotspot areas and every single station including every specialized unit. We are aware of those hotspots. So, the things that we do is of course is going to be computer generated data driven. It puts those in in those areas. We put our stations in that area along with our specialized units and it's helping to decrease the crime in those hotspot areas.
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Yeah, I was just going to give you some congratulations. I'd gotten some emails about problems in Overton Square and you know a couple phone calls to you guys and now I'm getting emails about how those problems are much better. So just that direction uh and response to the citizens I think is very well appreciated. Let the record show we've been joined by Easter Thomas Green and Smiley and do we have any questions uh concerning efforts to protect public events? You're right here, Councilwoman.
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And I'm sorry I walked in late. Y'all getting paid for this.
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Special events.
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Getting paid for special events.
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Yes, ma'am. Some of them we do, some of them we do not.
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What What was that, Chief Davis? Most of them we don't.
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And um so something big like the St. June marathon about how much should we bring in for that for all the overtime and and manpower that we use for it?
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invoice for not only St. Jude Marathon but other events like Memphis and May and also River Beats.
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Yeah, I would love to to get that update because it was my understanding the last time for the St. Jude Marathon we got about $1,200.
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[clears throat]
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So, I know that we're putting more um manpower in. And look, I love St. Jude, but it's a it's a donation from the citizens of Memphis every time that we pay the overtime for all of these officers to work these streets during that marathon. I believe they raised $17 million that last weekend for that one day. So, I I'm just asking for for us to have a real cost estimate. Other cities do this. Other I bring this up every year when it gets to be budget time. Other cities say you cannot host your event unless you can pay for the manpower. And you have to pay it upfront, not at the end. So, I encourage us as a body to consider that and to make sure that whether it is your family fund run 5K or something as big as St. Jude that we have a policy where people pay for the manpower because otherwise it is the taxpayers that pay for that manpower. But yeah, if you could get us an estimate of what what was paid. I'm just going to I'm just going to pull out St. Jukes is the biggest one we have and uh what was paid by them and what it cost us in overtime.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Councilwoman. Uh let the record show that we've been joined by Councilwoman Walker and Chair Canali who is getting ready to take over this committee.
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Oh, and you're in the queue.
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Thank you. Um Councilwoman Green, you make a good point. Made some good points. So, um, um, Chief Davis, I know you did come to us before with a

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presentation on that particular part in terms of who does and does not pay. And to that, I just want to mention that in 23 or 24, the Hickory Hill Christmas Parade had to be cancelled because there was not enough coverage because it was the same weekend as the same St. Jude event. and we just cannot have things like that happening. Thank you and I yield the floor.
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Thank you, Councilwoman. Anybody else in the queue? All right, moving on. Item two is a resolution to accept additional grant funds in the amount of $15,52810 from the US Department of Justice through the United States Marshall Service Western District of Tennessee. All council districts sponsored by the administration for the purpose of overtime funding for personnel salaries. There is a request for same night minutes. Can I get a motion to second?
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Moved by chair JSW, seconded by Warren ACA, you speaking on this?
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I can speak on this.
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Okay.
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Uh this money we received an initial 1.9 million from them at the very beginning of the Memphis Safe Task Force. uh towards the very end of or just several months ago, they offered there was some little bit extra in the extra in their money that wasn't used, so they offered that to us, so we accepted it.
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Okay. Yeah. Always. Any questions about this item? All those in favor of sending it downstairs with a positive recommendation with same night minutes signify by saying I. I.
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I'm also an I. Any opposed? That item passes. Item three, a resolution to amend the FY27 CIP program and transfer $319,000 in appropriated GEO bonds funds within

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the downtown command project IT010008 from other costs to architecture and engineering district 67 super 8 sponsored by the administration. Can I get a motion? Moved by JSW, seconded by Warren.
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You speaking on this one?
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Yes, sir. Major Merrick, 170 North Main. Uh, this was initially a IT project. It was transferred to police services and we're just uh transferring uh money within the project from construction to A&E so we can pay the A&E's uh invoices.
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Okay. Any questions on this item? All right. any uh is time of the essence on this item?
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Uh yes sir. So we can uh initiate the phase two of the downtown crime center project.
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Okay. Without objection, can we move this downstairs same night minutes? All right. All those in favor of sending this downstairs with a positive recommendation with same night minutes signify by saying I.
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I.
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I'm also an I. Any opposed? That item passes. Colleagues, anything else for public safety? Thank you to MPD as always.

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17 a.m. and I hereby call our budget committee to order. Please call the
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Yes, ma'am. Councilman Ford, Councilwoman Easter Thomas, Chairwoman Swear and Washington
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present.
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Councilman Canali, Councilman Warren, Cochair White
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present. Thank you so much. First, we have our Q4 general fund financial update. All council districts requested by the budget committee. We're going to move that to our next um council meeting, which will be November 10th. At that time though, I wanted to There we go. Chief Davis, thank you. Um, I wanted to ask you, and I started to actually over there, and I didn't get the answer. How long will it take for us to be able to have the Q1 numbers? [clears throat]
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Okay.
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Okay. That's perfect. So, we'll we'll leave it at November 10th in hopes that we'll be able to also uh review the quarter 4 for 2026 and then the quarter 1 for 2027. Number two is solid waste update all council districts requested by the administration. Chief Winton, I see you. Do we have anyone else? So, you'll be presenting.
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All right, you may proceed. Please say your name and address for the record. Yes, Chris Winton, COO, City of Memphis. Uh, thank you for the time for the update. Um, when I first took the role about 90 days ago, uh, trash pickup was one of the top concerns. So, wanted to give you an update on progress to date. Um, just for a quick level set, we service 180,000 uh, constituents citywide. uh that's picking up over 380,000 tons annually with approximately 600 active headcount and over 400 pieces

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of rolling stock. Um if you think about it, these are our people who are every day, you know, constituents rolling down their two carts to the street and often two additional trash bags, for example, after they cut their grass. So, you know, as we move forward, each of the whole solid waste operating model is broken down into five areas. That's areas A, B, C, D, and E with about 35,000 constituents per area. Uh, in short, you essentially have uh each area broken down to a zone and then each zone into a day of the week and that's how services are provided. Uh for the purposes of today, I want to focus in on because on August or August 1st, we took a snapshot of the metrics because we heard the feedback and then looked at the internal dashboards as well as call volumes in the 311 and what we started to see was miss bulk trash was the top call driver. U so and we understand that that was also escalations to you. So when we looked at our internal dashboard, as you can see on that date, we had about 2,2500 of those incidents and these are the people that were calling repeat calling 311 saying when is someone going to pick up our bulk trash. As you can see right there, area D was our biggest opportunity. So if we go to the next slide, we start to zoom in on area D and those areas are White Haven, Westwood, Parkway Village. So based on the feedback I was hearing from you, the data actually showed it. So when we started to doubleclick and zero in, we realized this area has a large percentage of rental properties with high volume of turnover. So we start to realize you had setouts occurring. And so all right, we got to now zoom in on this. So, what we also realized too that the bottleneck in in getting these picked up on time was also our

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maintenance equipment because we were running these bulk trucks more frequently, but we were only operating a first shift maintenance operation. So, we've now added the second shift mainten maintenance operation to keep the bulk trucks repaired and ready for operation each day. In parallel with that, we also started saying, well, wait a minute. Let's use our equipment from other areas. And I want to give a shout out to interim director Darius Jones as well as the ask me leadership team for their flexibility because we actually started using trucks and team members from other areas to sweep on Saturdays through White Haven, Westwood, and Parkway Village. And the numbers you see here on the board are the results as of 10:14 last week. This is a dashboard I watch daily and I can tell you the numbers are even better today. So we're we're seeing tremendous progress and we will keep that momentum going. Uh next slide. So when we think about what we're facing and this is one where we're now starting to do our homework and want to come back later with a recommendation to you the setouts. So if you look at this example, you know, this is someone you know where their things were set out. uh the code inspectors which the solid waste team allocated 20 resource 20 resources uh to create the enforcement team just on the solid waste ordinance. So they identified this issue late end of August actually cited the property owner which was out of town. Uh that individual was required to go to uh court. We actually cleaned up this property as you see on the next slide and that individual has been fined. Uh we do want to come back and the co the conversations now is are I are our fines high enough to disincentivize behavior. I know we've talked about that before. That'll be one of the things we come back with at another date. Um on the next slide

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you'll see also too as a part of that Boech storm. I mean we had about 300 trees that fell in rightways. Uh those tree that tree debris has now been cleaned up. So, as you see on the next slide, we've we're pretty much got that past us. Um, so now the focus is to keep the trend uh as you see on the final slide going because the Saturday sweep started in around August 10th. We had that bump in in calls around that bow echo storm with tree debris, but you can see the trend is now down. We're actually also seeing now call volume down to 311. And so in the last two weeks, we've noticed that now our average speed to answer is about every 26 seconds. When we compared that to August when this was high, it was about 6 minutes. So tremendous work also in the 311 area. So wanted to give a brief update and open it up for questions.
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Let the record reflect [clears throat] that um Councilwoman Walker and Council Miss Smiley have joined us. In the queue, we have Dr. Warren
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on the fine issue. I I I know that at least I'm under the impression we're limited by state constitution, but I understand that we can charge a fee for removal and our cost for removal. So, are we doing that?
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Yes.
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Okay. And how much did it cost to remove from that house? Any idea?
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Just right at $1,300.
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Okay. So, that that's probably enough to make people think about it. They need to realize we may be only able to charge him. Did we get that when we got to court?
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Well, that actually that's in the process now.
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Okay. So,
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that court date was this week.
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So, and that I'd say that's a small amount, the $1,300. So, if you really put stuff out there, we could be talking three, four, $5,000.
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Correct.
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Okay. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.
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Councilman Canali, you're recognized.
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Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh [clears throat] Chief, who's responsible

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when something like this happens? When tree companies know that they can't set whole trees in the curb and expect the city to pick it up? It is their responsibility. We find the homeowner. Can we find the tree company?
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Yeah. Well, this one was actually more of a unique situation. This was the storm. So, these trees were in right away. So,
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okay. Yeah, but for trees that are not. So, you I mean, everybody sees in their neighborhood. Somebody has a tree cut down and they stack it all on the curb. Mhm.
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Um, and it's not our responsibility as a city to pick that up. That is the tree company's responsible. They were paid to do that job, which is to complete the job and haul it off. So,
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is there a way that we can, if we find somebody, do we find the homeowner? Just like one of my biggest gripes since I've been on this council is lawn companies blowing leaves and yard clippings into our storm drains.
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And I've always been in favor of of finding them if you can catch them in the act. similar to this that would be the tree companies that will cut up an entire tree and leave it and expect our solid waste crews to pick it up.
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So what what can we do?
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Yeah. So actually that does follow our code enforcement process. So we can tag uh and when we removal similar process we can charge for that
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but it goes to the homeowner. Correct.
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And then that would be up to them to fight that out with the tree company that they hired. Correct.
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Okay. All right. Thank you sir.
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Thank you so much. Seeing no other council members in the queue. Um do want to acknowledge our mayor who has joined us. Thank you so much for joining us. Uh mayor, is there something that you wanted to add to this presentation at this time?
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No, I'm here for the next item. So number three.
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All right. Thank you. All right. Moving on to item number three. It is a resolution to amend the fiscal year 2027 general fund, solid waste management fund, sewer treatment and collections fund, and storm water fund operating budgets all council districts requested by the administration. Can I get a motion and a second? Motion from chairwoman swearing Washington. A second from Councilman War. Chief Winton, Mary Young, [clears throat] you're recognized.
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All right. Thank you uh for the

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opportunity to present this item. As you all know, during budget season, there was a lot of talk around uh ask me and uh I think it went to impass and when we closed out budget, one of the things that we said was through the first quarter, we would work and determine what type of increase we could afford. Uh we've had a substantial conversation since that time. uh and even the presentation that came prior to this was a part of that dialogue uh because as we talk about increases, we want to make sure that we're also increasing the impact in the community. And so uh during that dialogue we did come to an agreement uh that we could uh support a 5% increase uh across solid waste with the exception of one uh particular uh position which is the solid waste special equipment operator. Uh that one we did at 2% and it was because that one was already close to its market uh range based on the compens compensation studies. Uh, and we also increased the hourly wages from $20 an hour to $22 an hour, which is really a preview of where we want to go as an administration over time. Begin moving uh from $20 up to 22. Uh the financial impact uh to the general fund is to the tune of roughly 786,000. Um the solid waste fund, the impact is about 1.4. And as you all know, the solid waste fund is pretty healthy, so we felt like we could afford that. The sewer fund was 66,000 and then the storm water fund was 94,000. Another important point as you all take this into consideration is that during our dialogue, while it doesn't impede on any of their rights as an organization and they can still go to impass, we did talk about making sure [clears throat] that as we're doing this in the first quarter uh of the year that we are taking this into consideration when we go through budget season uh at the end of the year,

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which they did acknowledge that this certainly would be included as a part of that conversation when we get to the end of the year discussions for next year's budget. So with that said, uh our finance team feels comfortable with this. I would humbly ask for your approval. Uh as as noted, we also made it a got a commitment from them that they are going to coordinate with our teams and work hard and as you can see the results are already showing. So I would ask for your approval and I'll stop there and take any questions that you have.
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Any members in the queue? No. Well, I just have a couple of questions. The um the last time we were here, one of the things that I wanted to see was in terms of the proposed increases, how they measured out amongst the different range levels in terms of how is it going to fair? Are we going to is it getting people up to a certain level? Is are some exceeding some level in terms of market? kind of that comparison that we normally get
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during the actual impass,
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right? Uh I would have to ask I don't know if Fonda is Fonda in here.
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Oh, sorry. Chris is here. Fonda's out. Uh but Chris, I don't know if you can speak to that. I don't have it with me, but I know that they have looked at some of those things.
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Okay.
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Um good morning, Chris Allen, deputy chief HR compliance. None of the positions at the moment are close to or exceeding the the market study at the moment. the the one that is is the 2% one, which is the one that was reduced.
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Thank you. And I'm glad that you actually came up because you participated in the um the working sessions that we had as it pertains to trying to get these various um positions kind of level set. So after reviewing these, it's your opinion that this is in part with kind of the recommendations [clears throat] that we came up with out of the work kind of the working committee for the study as it pertains to compensation.

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Yes, ma'am. These are these would be considered the targeted increases that we would of course like to do throughout the year um as it relates to negotiating with the associations.
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Thank you. Then Chief Davis, my next question is for you. Art Davis, City of Memphis, CFO 125 North Wings.
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Thank you. So, I know that you just let us know that the books just closed. I think the quarter ended two weeks ago and I think you closed out your books yesterday in terms of quarter 1. Um, and we don't have that report yet. We'll get that on November 10th to be able to see where we are from a fiscal standpoint. from the sewer fund. It's going to be $66,000. My concern is is that one, from my understanding, still has a negative cash on hand balance. That's the fund that we had to loan the money to. Is that right?
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Yes. But again, the negative cash on hand is offset by the receivables. For instance, we uh just received $12 million today. So, that will post tomorrow. So, it does cover the uh cash on hand balance through the receivables. my I understand that part. The I guess my bigger concern is that with the sewer fund specifically and it's not much. It's $66,000, but just coming from that fund in general, that's the fund that had a continuous period of being out of balance, I would say, with the negative to the point that we had to cut a check or move money to be able to compensate for that fund to be able to cover the expenses. And so my question is, how have you all evaluated that to deem that the 66,000 is able to come out of that fund [clears throat] because I don't think there've been any more um is there some new revenue that's coming in or how is that going to balance now because it seemed as if it was going in a negative trend. So, uh, one of the things that we've done with that is is actually talked with Director Morgan, um, and Chief Whitten about how can we find that as a reduction of

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expenses rather than looking to the fund balance of this particular fund, and they are confident that they can find that $66,000. The other thing, and we only have one month, so I want to be cautious with this, is the uh increase for the rate uh came in at about $3.5 million, which is a little bit more than what our um budgeted increase amount was. So, I I don't want to extrapolate that over 10 months because I only have one month um of history there, but there is uh an increase which should help cover this as well. Thank you. Do we have any other members in the queue?
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Councilman Smiley, you're recognized.
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So, thank you, U, Madam Chair. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, um to all the administration. I think when we proposed this um myself and I think it was co-sponsored by Councilwoman Thomas and Councilwoman Green during the budget session I think the same funding sources identified by the administration the same funding sources that our staff identified um what we were told then that essentially it was not feasible for us to do this and you know you know my position then was you know if the administration um would take the time um they can always find the money and you know the reason I'm going to support this now is the same reason I support it then. I think um it's about priorities. I I know we're we're looking at you know this presentation that our budget analyst prepared is it it says something about it's question um the liquidity of of some of certain funds talked about a negative cash on hand. I just think the administration um has the the the staff necessary to figure out how to make this work. I'm not sure if it works on paper, but I believe they can make it happen. Um you know, I'm going to support it and I hope that each and every person here supports it as well. Um the folks who are working hard for us, they deserve a pay increase and I hope we all support

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this particular um budget amendment. So that's it.
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Thank you. Seeing no other members in the queue. Um I will say that I of course want to see the Q1 numbers. Um but if according to HR, this is in par with what we discussed in our work in session. If all is well in terms of our quarter one, I as well will support it. Um of course with the upcoming changes as it pertains to pickup because that is absolutely the number one thing in my inbox. um is trash pickup and those are the times that I actually get messages to my phone. So, I'm hoping that this will also incentivize, you know, um incentivize those who work in these departments as well. But I would like to see the Q1 numbers. Uh but seeing no other members in the queue, all those in favor say I. I.
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Any opposed? Nay. Let the record reflect also that um Councilwoman Green has joined us as well.

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Smile.
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Let's roll. We have we have three items on the agenda today. Uh item number one, a resolution to allocate and appropriate 3,259,282 in data center revenues collected during FY26 to nine projects and programs in accordance with community benefits ordinance. Just a nice cell phone ring. Sounds like the doctor. Number uh 5953, District 6, Super District 8, sponsored by the administration. Moved by for seconded by Councilman Walker. Before I let the mayor speak, Councilman Ford, you're in the queue.
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Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Uh this is an item in which I kind of was holding for a while. I think we've come to agreements on everything that's needed. Yeah, I think we've come to an agreement on everything that's needed. Uh I think we going to be passing out this resolution plus did they get this also? Everybody and I think everything will be fine. Only other thing that we're going to do and then I talk with the mayor. We going to get with the other side of the street and see some of the other things that they supposed to have for us also that will work in conjunction with everything. Now I'm going to turn it over to the mayor. We all good.
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Hold on. You where you at? No,
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you can go ahead.
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Can I talk?
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Yeah, you can talk.
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Yeah, go ahead. Go right ahead.
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Thank you for coming today. We are finally here. Thank you so much,

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Councilman Ford and everyone who worked on this. Um, thank you to my colleague Cooper Sutton who was um over the convening of the advisory board that led the process in coming up with some data to help you all make your decision and I'm just glad that we are here finally. Thank you. I yield the floor.
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The floor is yours, sir.
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All right. I want to say thank you to uh Councilman Ford, Councilwoman Walker, uh Councilwoman Cooper Sutton. Uh we've certainly had a lot of dialogues about this and I I feel like we're in a good place. As you [clears throat] all know, we presented this uh a few weeks ago and gave a full presentation. So, I'm not going to do that today. I'm just going to show you uh what is different from what we originally proposed. As you all know, uh I look at this as probably the first form of participatory budgeting we've actually done uh in the city of Memphis where we actually had residents that were able to uh vote or respond to a survey and highlight their greatest desires for using the dollars. Uh and I think the money reflects that. uh home repair uh even in the adjusted budget is still the highest uh amount that gets funded. Uh at $2 million increased from 1.4. Uh we thought that it was very important to ensure given the the state of the housing stock and the needs in the community to put more dollars in that area. Um and so we increased that to two million. Uh we reduced uh some of the beautifification and blight remediation. So you can see those numbers reflected here in the table. We reduced the number for city beautiful down to 25,000. Uh it still will allow for uh materials and supplies for the area for cleanup for voluntary cleanups but we reduced that number down. We kept the environmental education number at 100,000 which is really important. The most glaring thing here is you see the

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reduction in air quality monitoring. Uh that is as Councilman Ford said, there has been dollars that have been allocated from Shelby County Health to the Shelby County Health Department uh to install an EPA monitor in the area. Uh and I literally just hung up the phone right before I came down here with uh Miss Kesa Alexander who runs the air quality department at the health department and she said that they actually installed that monitor uh in the Riverview area back in June of this year. So, uh there is constant air quality monitoring that's being done. We increased the amount for AC distributions because obviously there are needs for that. Uh and the grant pool is still uh at a healthy amount with 359,000. So qualified nonprofit entities will be able to apply with at least $50,000 going towards uh health care needs for the community. So with that, I would ask for your uh support. Uh the team put in a lot of work, the council's put in a lot of work. This is for FY26. Uh FY27 uh I think the total amount of the funds will be about $6.6 million and as you all know it will be for 38109 and 38116. And so we will bring forth uh more recommendations for that coming soon.
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Any questions by this body? Let the record reflect. Madam Chairwoman is here. Uh, all right. Y'all kind of quiet. So, ready to take a vote. All those in favor?
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Any I think Councilwoman Walker wants to sing to us today. Um, it's an opinion of the chair that uh, Councilwoman Walker I carries. All right. This item is approved. Thank you members.

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Thank you Motion Picture Academy and Screen Actors Guild.
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Yeah, I just cut up today. I just
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But seriously, thank you all for the work that you were doing.
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Thank you, Mayor Young
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doing today on this item. Item number two, [clears throat] resolution to accept and allocate and appropriate $500,000 in grant funds received from the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation Design and Construction of Memphis Zoo Pervious Pavement Project District 5 Superition 9 sponsored by administration request. I get a motion to second move by J. There's someone from administration speak it.
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Good afternoon. Greg Dodson, director of engineering, 125 North Main.
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Gerald Spencer, deputy director for general services, 125 North M.
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All right.
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Yeah. So,
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you can probably just read one line. All is accept and allocate.
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Very brief. Uh yes, accept, allocate, and appropriate
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and appropriate
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uh $500,000 of TD deck funds. Uh basically, again, the grant will be for the design and construction of pvious pavement to replace minimum of 44,000 square yards of asphalt pavement at the Memphis Zoo.
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All right. Any questions from this body? Appears to all heart. All those in favor signify by saying I.
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Any oppose? It's the Py. Thank you. Item number three, division of engineing update on traffic congestion at Homes Road and Tain Road. We got some questions. Hopefully you got some answers. How can you enforce this? How they listen to us? Those are going to be two questions right there.
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Absolutely.
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All right. Uh I thought it would be good.
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Hey, Randall Tatum, city traffic engineer. Uh, so I thought it would be good to maybe kind of uh go through a narrative and maybe a timeline of kind of what our

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actions have been up to this point. Say it again.
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Can use Yes, sir. Uh so um going back to September 28th, um engineer met with Councilwoman Cooper Sudden uh and staff to discuss the concerns with the truck traffic at the intersection of homes in two lane. Uh that same day she requested that no truck signs be installed at that intersection and upstream and downstream on both h uh homes and two-lane as well. Um Thursday, so that same week, um engineering signs and markings crews uh installed no truck signs on homes and two lane. This was this was October 1st. Uh and then just as a note as a result of that there there was no noticeable decrease uh in truck traffic after those signs were
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so they disregard the signs.
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They disregarded the signs.
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And who is they?
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This is the truck traffic and the truck vendors and partners of Space XAI.
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Did a good job. Go ahead. Uh Friday, October 9th, uh that morning, uh Chief Wind connected us with uh Space XAI personnel um that oversees the truck traffic uh in and out of those facilities uh you know in the area. Uh that afternoon I took it upon myself to observe the traffic and noted the significant truck traffic that caused a number of disruptions to vehicular traffic particularly as it relates to the school pickup entrance at John P. Freeman on two lane.
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Quick question. Isn't the traffic similar in the morning time as well?

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It is similar. The only thing you need to keep in mind is that in the mornings the the drop off is on Homes Road.
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Okay.
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The pickup is on Two Lane in the afternoon. So, um, Monday, December, uh, I'm sorry, o October 12th, uh, engineer met with SPE SpaceX AAI personnel to share concerns of the truck trafficing on no truck routes, uh, no truck routes signs, you know, on on two lane and homes. Um that same day, Space XAI shared the routing guidance and we have some slides if or it's in y'all's uh you know packet where you can see what they shared with us. And these are basically guidelines uh notices to all of the truck partners and vendors uh to alerting them that those yeah no truck routes were uh to to not be utilized. Uh and then we also identified some truck routes that they actually some alternate routes that they could actually utilize which would pretty much eliminate the truck traffic entering into the home's two-lane road intersection. Um so we figured it'd take a little bit of a little bit to kind of get that disseminated. Uh so following week which is October 19th yesterday um I observed the traffic between 7:30 and 8 uh a.m. and noticed significant decrease uh in the traffic and this amounts to about one truck for every two minutes. This was yesterday. I went in the morning time. We did not go back in the evening. namely because I realized that the students were still out of school yesterday.

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Yeah. Well, in addition to yesterday, I went out there this morning uh and there there so we did have the parents dropping off the students as well as faculty uh and and noticed that there was again significant decrease uh in the truck traffic. still some stragglers. Uh but the what I'm what I'm observing is that there's just a significant decline particularly from the notices given out October 12th to this week where we're we're now seeing you know the effects of those of those notices.
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Oh no, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
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Dr. War I can see. Are we giving out tickets now to truckers who are not where they're supposed to be? Because I I think that would be the next step. So, when do we start that?
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Yes, sir. So, we've been in constant communication with MPD uh for enforcement in the area. Uh so, they are aware. We're going to continue to uh coordinate with them to ensure that they are citing any uh trucks that are violating our truck restrictions in the area.
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How many tickets have we given so far?
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U we don't have that information.
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Can you bring that back to us so we know?
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Yes, sir. We'll check with the video on that.
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What's What's the maximum amount of the fine
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when they violate?
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We don't know.
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I've seen signs that say $1,000.
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I don't know if we actually have anything that actually shows it may be in in Mississippi or
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Okay. So, I guess bring back that information when you come back.
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So, in uh two weeks we see you back kind of just talk about, you know, where we are today and Are we still seeing signs of decrease or if it's upticking more and also talk about an involvement of MPD and are we issuing citations in the amount?
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Absolutely.
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Okay. Any questions from anyone on this

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body? Council woman.
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Yes.
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If you will, can you check with the White Haven links? I know that there are users who at certain times of the day they are having challenges getting on and off the parking lot.
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Yes. You're talking about the golf course, right?
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The golf course.
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Yes. Yes, ma'am. I actually did have a conversation with them. I also spoke with the staff at um at John P. Freeman uh as well. And they they they did say that there was some disruption. Um and it has to do not to get in too much of the weeds here, but there is a an adjacent parking lot that a lot of the XI workers use
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street before you get to the railroad.
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That's right. That's right. And so there's been some disruption there. Um but he he noted uh the staff there noted that it it wasn't it wasn't terrible to where they could not get out but it it's it's part of the particularly in the peak hour. You know there's just some issues particularly turning left.
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Okay. Thank you. This is complete for me.
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Anybody else in the queue on this particular issue? I know many of us have been out there.
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Well, thank you for actually showing up and taking a look at it yourself. We appreciate that type of diligent work. Um with that um this item is ended and this committee is adjourned.

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Uh,
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call the role, please.
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Yes, sir.
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Just relax.
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Councilwoman Green, Councilman Smiley, Councilwoman Walker,
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Councilman Dr. Warren,
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Councilwoman White,
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Councilman Canali,
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Councilwoman Logan, just
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and Chair Spinosa.
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All right. Here. So, item number one uh is going to be held until November 24th. That's in Councilwoman Logan's district. And just for the record, we'll do that without objection. But I think the expectation is we have a neighborhood meeting between now and then. So 11:24 y'all get together.
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All right. Thank you. That's it for item number one. Item number two, PD 2026-013 also in Councilwoman Logan's district 1, Super District 9, sponsored by the administration. There is a request for same night minutes. Could I get a motion in a second?
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All right. Measure was made by Councilman Canali, seconded by Councilman Warren. Name and address for the record, please.
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Jeffrey Penzes, zoning administrator, division of planning development. And with me is TR Sabuzi, who will present this case. Good afternoon. I'm Truce with Planning and Development. This is an amendment to a PD that was approved in 2000 and the applicant is requesting to modify some of the conditions to allow a variety of uses for commercial office residential and civic. It's located on Austin P Highway, west side of Austin P Highway, north of

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New Coventon Pike and south of Egypt Central Road. It's in the Raleigh area. This is a vicinity map. We sent out 38 notices. It is currently zone residential single family 10, but as I said, a PD was approved in 2000 and they here to amend some of their conditions. Here are a few side photos. So, this is their outline plan. It's a variety of different um uses. It contains multif family civic uses, a hotel, and a mixture of different uses. This proposal was consistent with the Memphis 3.0 comprehensive plan. Um, per staff, this was approved into different areas. Area B was developed and the prop the subject property has remained vacant and we do not find anything against it. So recommended approval and the land use control board also recommended approval. Thank you.
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So everyone can see approved by LUCB and approved by um DPD. So are there any council members that have any questions on this item? All right. Seeing none, without objection, this will go downstairs with the positive recommendation for same night minutes. All right, that does it. Thank you. That does it for item number two. Item number three, SNC street name change 2026- 0003 District 1 Super District 9, sponsored by the administration. Uh, I need a motion in a second.
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All right. Motion was made by Councilman Canali. Seconded by, I believe, Councilwoman Green. Moved all the way to the end down there. Uh, motion was made and properly seconded. Floor is yours. So we were here last meeting and we have

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a few different name options here that got approved by MLGW.
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So this these are the street name
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the street name change for IKEA way.
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Exactly.
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Okay. And so these are four options for street names. This is in Councilwoman Logan's district. Uh if if you're I would like to give you the microphone on this. I feel like this is your district. I mean, if we want to vote on a street name, I guess we could do that, but what do you think?
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Can we vote on a street name first and then come right back?
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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This is this the street name?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. This this is on the screen. So, these are the the four options that MLGW have said are okay.
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Uh
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oh, these are the options.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Cordova something.
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Okay. You if you Okay. If you pick between either of those two,
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I'm in favor of Cordova Market Drive.
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Okay, so we made a motion. [laughter]
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Oh, she said I.
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Okay, there's an I. All right, so for the record, Cordova Market Drive without objection, we're going to go with Cordova Market Drive. Any objection from council members?
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All right, seeing none, we just named a street. That does it for item number three.
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Thank you.
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Uh Cordova Market Drive. Congratulations. All right. Item number four, MJR2026-022, District 2, Super District 9, sponsored by the administration. There is a request for same night minutes. Could I have a motion in a second, please? All right. Move. Moved by Councilwoman Ford, seconded by Councilwoman Warren.
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I mean Green. Sorry. Councilwoman Warren already slip. Uh, go ahead, please. Alexis Long Street with the Division of Planning and Development. I'm presenting on case MJR 202622, which is a correspondence case to plan development 2021 024. This property is located at 147 North Germantown Parkway with a request to major modification to

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the approved plan development from 2021 to reflect a change of ownership for a car wash. Um, as you all can see here, property is located in the Cordova area. About 148 notices were mailed out September 18th. Um there were no letters of opposition or support received during that time. Um the current zoning use is RU3 but it is governed by the plan development 2021 024 parcel D which permits commercial mixeduse 2 zoning uses and it does have a commercial zoning land use designation as well. And here are a few of the existing site photos. in the existing recorded plan. So, the applicant is not proposing to change anything to the existing site. They're simply just proposing the street name change, which was added by a fellow member back during its council approval to to require the business name change um of the operating business underneath this plan development. And so, as I mentioned earlier, here are a few of those conclusions regarding the approval or the request. itself in the original approval and the applicant is present. Staff did recommend approval and as well as the lane use control board.
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All right, thank you so much. So staff recommends approval. So did LUCB and again time and effort and energy goes into all of this before we get here today. So thank you all for that. Um any comments over there before we this is kind of non-eventful.
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Yeah, very nonful which I appreciate.
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Club Car Wash has bought the Glide Car Washes and this is their last in order to purchase. So, they're wanting to grow in the Memphis market. Their their way to grow in the Memphis market.
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So, thank you for growing in the Memphis market. Um, any comments, questions from council members? All right. Seeing none, um, all those in favor of this, please respond by saying I.
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I.
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All right. Anyone opposed? All right. Opinion of the chairs, the eyes have it. So, item four will go downstairs with

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the positive recommendation for same night minutes. Thank you. All right. The last item on the agenda, item number five, sup26-013. This is in district 2, super district 9, sponsored by the administration penises and with me is manad nita who will present this item.
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Welcome.
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Good afternoon, Masan Oadia with DPD. Uh this is a request for a car wash in a CMU zoning district. Um in February uh on February 2021 uh Memphis City Council downzone this area from CMU3 to CMU1 and the surrounding land use ma uh land uses are a mixture of commercial, multif family and single family. Here are few pictures of the site. Uh this is a corner lot and this is the site plan that the applicant uh proposed and here are some elevation uh proposed by the applicant. Uh Memphis 3.0 believes that this is a consistent use. Um however our uh broader um analysis uh we believe that this is um an inconsistent use and um there are um several residential areas in in the neighborhood and also uh there are four existing car washes from uh North Parkway to um White Station um which is along Summer Avenue. It is in a fivemile segment and uh one newly approved car wash along summer avenue by city council uh in the previous uh meeting. Um hence we believe that um this um shall not be a consistent use um for the neighborhood. Uh we are recommending rejection. Versus control board also rejected uh this case. However, if approved, here are the list of conditions. That concludes my

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presentation. Happy to answer any questions.
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Thank you. Uh, Councilwoman Green,
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is this in my district?
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No, I was just looking at it. So, that's uh down the street from my house. That's going to be district five. Is the applicant here?
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Okay. I just wanted to make sure.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right. So, um,
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I'm going to follow your lead, chair. We're going to hold this item without objection. All right. So, item number five has been held. Any other items before this committee? Seeing none. Thank you. We're done.

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Good afternoon. The October 20th, 2026 executive session of the Memphis City Council is hereby call to order. Chief Johnson, if you'll please call the role. Councilwoman Green, Councilman Ford, Senior, Councilwoman Walker,
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Councilman Warren,
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Councilwoman Logan, Council Miss Spinosa, Chair Swingen, Washington
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present. Thank you, Chief Johnson. We have one item on the agenda today. Item number one is an ordinance to establish a framework for the creation and state approval of a nonprofit community benefit agency to authorize coordination between the city of Memphis and the state of Tennessee for the lawful receipt, administration, and distribution of data center community benefit funding to provide for community representation, financial accountability, and public oversight and to provide for related purposes all council districts. And this is sponsored by Councilman Warren. Can I get a motion and a second?
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Second.
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All right. It's been moved by Councilman Ford, Senior, second by Councilwoman Walker. Councilman Warren, you're recognized at this time. If you could offer us some clarity on this, please. confusion in the press about what this is as opposed to the 25% of tax revenue that we're giving to uh that Councilwoman Walker and Councilman Ford are arranging to go into the districts near Colossus and our XAI plant. This is designed to allow the city to accept funding from potential growth in future data centers that will be above and beyond property taxes. And this funding needs to go to us in a way

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that's not taxes. We don't have the authority to tax for this. We're going to need to ask the state for authority to develop this community uh community data center benefit agency, the community benefit agency and we'll have to ask them to set up laws and allow us to do this. But without this document, we don't have anything to take to them to ask them to do for us. So what we're trying to do is to set up this process by which we can allow or figure out a way that we can get extra funds from these data centers as they grow. Currently all we can really get is property taxes. In other parts of the country uh they've arranged to where data centers pay a certain amount for megawatt hour that they use. Uh and if we look at what mega megawatt growth could be, that's where this is. This doesn't this doesn't address the things that I think Councilwoman Logan's uh and bill is going to address later on. This is just on how we get money later on. This is what we're trying to do. Establish a lawful mechanism through which the state of Tennessee allows us to collect this money. Okay. to put financial controls on it to develop an agency which is a little bit like the airport authority that's responsible for the airport. This agency would be responsible for funds that were given or obtained or you know by contract acquired for the agency from data centers. Uh and it also proposes how this money would be spent and who would run it. Um the purposes of this would be neighborhood revitalization, workforce development, apprenticeships, employment preparation, small business development, access to economic opportunities, youth development, educational programming, housing

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stability, neighbor neighborhood stabilization, environmental monitoring, environmental education, public health education, public safety, capacity, building, uh nonprofits and other lawful things. So using it for after school programs, park programs, think of it basically what city functions are. How can we take this extra money and use it? And what would happen is there would be a board that would distribute this money. We as the city council I think would ask where we would want it to go. So and just like the airport author, the airport askked the airport authority, we need money to build this hanger. And they'll go, okay, yes, build the hanger. we have the money for it. Uh we're going to want to build some low-income houses. We're going to tell them how many and where they are. We'll ask the community uh agency and they'll be able to do that for us. So, this provides for legal structure. It also at the very end, you'll notice there's a letter where we ask our legislature if they would grant us permission to do this and help us develop the laws that make this legal. uh and that's going to require our mayor. I think uh at some point as we move this forward uh there may even be a county uh version of this at some point as we go forward, but at this point this is only from the city because that's all that we can do. So this is enabling legislation. The fact we pass it and the fact that it goes through three readings and you know becomes law means that it becomes law if the state says it becomes law. So, we have to take this to the state and ask them to develop the regulations and the laws that allow us to do this. But I think we would be remiss to do this. There have been other communities across the country that have gotten rid of their property taxes. You know, uh I've seen numbers that people have generated based on a certain wattage uh uh fund fee per wattage use

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that suggests we could get 120 million to $980 million a year uh within 10 years on this with the idea that if we do that, you all know what we could do with the city if we had that money. So, one, you lower property taxes, you get people moving back in, you build low-income housing. So, I think what we potentially could do with is great. I think the only thing that's limiting us is our ability to go ahead and get this bill passed and then work well with our state legislature to make sure we can get their approval and assistance to do this. So, I would strongly urge and ask my colleagues to vote for this and I would love to have everyone on this as a co-sponsor if they would so choose. and and I'd like you to go down tonight if possible for first reading so that way we can have it done in uh not in not in two more or three more meetings.
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Okay.
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Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Thank you, Councilman.
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And I'm open to questions if anyone has them.
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All right, Councilwoman Logan, you're recognized. Explain to me the purpose behind I mean I know the purpose but why do we have to do that? It seems as though we did we're already collecting funds on the one we have now and we didn't have to get permission from the state. Seems like we can negotiate instead of regulated.
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The the difference is that's from property taxes.
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Okay.
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Okay. And because it's from property taxes that's within our domain.
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This is not property tax. This would be uh a fee that is negotiated and entered into a contractual relationship with the data center that says, "Okay, we see the need in your community. We agree, you know, for you assisting us getting our permits uh in a rapid fashion that we're going to pay you x amount per kilowatt hour for 10 10 years." and they sign a contract and that contract can't come to

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us according to our lawyer Allen as a because it would be considered a tax. Evidently, we've done something similar to this with AT&T in the past and there are all sorts of lawsuits and Councilman Ford may remember this. I don't. It was before my time, but yeah, I know you got a memory like a trap. But, uh, but so on that, that's why it's got to do with what Allan said to me and the way we had to set it up. And this is how it's set up in other uh municipalities. And I think the other thing that it does that's good is it gives us an extra layer of public accountability and visibility of where these funds are going. So we'll have a board that's going to be spending that have to do an annual report. They'll report to us and we'll be monitoring what they're doing. Also,
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I hope that answered your question, Councilwoman.
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It did. Thank you. I appreciate that.
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And I'd love to have you as a co-sponsor.
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Absolutely.
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Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Councilwoman Logan. Councilwoman Walker, you're recognized at this time.
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Councilman Warren, so XAI has currently done things in the community for the community. So, what process are they process processes um laws possibly that they are operating under to be able to do that already? I think what they're doing
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without this
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what they're doing is they are just making donations. Okay, they are doing that. What this would do is this would set up a legal framework where we would have a contractual relationship based on kilowatt usage that the new data center would be giving this amount of money per kilowatt use or whatever and to this entity. So, it's a contract. We're going to be using this much. y'all get this much extra above and beyond property taxes. And you'd say, "Well, why would they want to do that?" Well, if we're able to sort of expedite them getting

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their permits, making sure they do all the things they're supposed to do in the permit process, and we're able to help speed them up, the minute they've got that contract signed, they're they're their stock goes up by 10 or 15 or 20%. Which will more than pay for this amount of money over 10 years. uh you know they'll still be making a lot more money than they'll be giving us. And it's also a way to make the community better. So if you think about it, you're wanting to build your data center and you want the surrounding companies that come around the data center to succeed. You want them to have a really good place to go to. And we know that Memphis is a great place. I mean, you know, Memphis is fun. You know, Memphis is really it's a great place. Memphis is a fund, but we also we got a lot of needs that we could use this money for if we did it wisely, and this is a way to help us do it wisely.
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Okay. Thank you. I yield the floor. I have a clarifying question. All right, Councilwoman.
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Okay. So, you said that that's a donation, but whatever it was, we negotiated it. It's an
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but but the reason why I say that is because
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it seems as though if we go the route of the ordinance, it's going to be like regulated or somebody else has some say over it or can get some of it. But if we in a business transaction negotiate what we want, there's nothing to be regulated.
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The negotiation that you're talking about is one that I think we've done before and it' be nice if Allan's listening somewhere in the back. he could come out and back me up on this, but the the issue is that that would still be considered a tax. It's us getting money directly to us in a format that is not allowed under the state constitution.
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That what we just did. I mean, not I'm not
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No, we use we use tax money that was already owed to us. We're talking about getting extra funding.
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Okay.
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Okay. In another way other than property tax that we can we are actually able to do. And since we can't do that, this is a way that we can get those funds. But

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that's why we have to go to the state. But if the state says no, then I think it'll be a problem. I have been I have spoken to very prominent businessmen that told me if we could get this thing passed by January, they will do everything in their power to take it to Nashville and make sure it becomes law. They'll go to lobby for us. We've got people in in in the business community that want to see this happen and will go and fight for us in Nashville and have a pretty good track record so far. So, I would I would I think that's that's what we've got. So, we have people that think this is a good idea. They think it's a way we can get money and it's just a boom for what we could do for Memphis and they'll go fight for us in Nashville. And um you know, that's about all we can do. There's no guarantee. Worst case scenario, we pass it. It doesn't go anywhere. And we tried. But if we don't try, I think we're we're we're hurting ourselves.
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All right. Councilman Spinosa, you're recognized.
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Um, Councilman Warren, I'm I'm looking and I'm not saying that I want to I don't know if we hold this.
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Allan thought we should send it down tonight for same night minutes. Thank you. Appreciate knowing Allan's recommendation. I want to talk to Allan because I think that there's a way for you to possibly plug this on to the item that I presented so we can move faster with it. Um because that was a piece
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I'm all I'm all for it
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because that was a piece of what I this was a piece of what I presented humbly presented uh as we're all trying to figure this out together. This is just the first time I've heard of we talked about this obviously. So maybe maybe we could do that in here. Oh and look
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look here.
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I heard my name.
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Yeah,
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I keep hearing a lot of that lady.
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I'm thinking this go downstairs here. Here here I think it's a great idea.

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Recommendation. Send it downstairs and then maybe we could talk through the possibility of
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adding this to what I had brought up as we try to blend all these things.
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Okay. So, so I um
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Thank you, Madam Chair.
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This is Alan Wade, your lawyer.
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Um, so when Jeff presented it to me, I said just go ahead generally go ahead and present an ordinance. We have three readings to adjust it. Uh, this is being presented today and in all fairness to the rest of the members, they may want to have a look at it. If your option is a viable option, it can be exercised at the next meeting and we can we can substitute for yours and just roll it in and then he can drop his and then we can go over.
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I have a feeling that there's going to be a lot of movement on things today and so we could keep mine alive in the hopes of
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Oh, yours will be held. You should hold yours.
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Yeah, I would like to hold mine. Okay. So, I'm going to go ahead and ask the chair to hold.
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Just wait and do it down there.
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Wow. When we can do it now. Just do it down there, bro. Just have that. Listen, let's let's follow the protocol, okay? Just just trust me on this one.
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Just follow the protocol, right?
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I guess I'm I'm a little confused. So, could I ask attorney a question?
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Yours is going to have a first reading tonight. And to the extent that it's ready for the body next meeting, you we can substitute yours in his ordinance and then finally adopt it. Okay.
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I got it.
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You got your same thing. And I didn't have a problem. Let me just say this. I didn't have a problem going three readings with his because his ain't going nowhere until the general assembly authorizes us to go for. Okay. So there's no rush on his. Okay.
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Okay. All those in favor say I.
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Any oppose? Nay.
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It is the opinion of the chair that the eyes have it. This item will go down with a favorable recommendation. That brings us to our add-on items. Items number 34, 35, 36, and 37

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first reading. Okay. So, that previous item will go down [clears throat] for first reading with under consent. Okay. All right. Item number 34 is a resolution to allocate, appropriate, and transfer the sum of $43,224 and45 from Memphis Parks Capital Reserve CIP project PK25104, fiscal year 2027, contract construction and transfer to Westwood Pool Improvements, CIP project number PK 0420. 20 contract construction as part of the fiscal year 2027 capital improvement budget district 6 super district 8 sponsored by the administration. There's a request for same night minutes. Item number 35 is a resolution to accept additional grant funds in the amount of 105,52810 from US Department of Justice through the United States Marshall Service Western District of Tennessee. All council districts sponsored by the administration for the purpose of overtime funding for personnel salaries. There's a request for same night minutes. This was passed with a favorable recommendation. Item number 36 is a resolution to amend the FY2027 capital improvement program CIP and transfer $319,000 in appropriated general obligation go funds with the downtown command project IT010008 from other cost to architecture and engineering. There's a request for same night minutes. This item was also passed with a favorable recommendation. Item number 37, a resolution to accept,

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allocate, and appropriate $500,000 in grant funds received from the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation Tdeoo. Pervious pavement project district 5 super district 9 sponsored by the administration. There's a request for same night minutes. The same night minute items are 6 7 34 35 36 and 37. Does any member of the committee have anything else that needs to be addressed? If not we will stand adjourned. Thank you.